Friday, January 20, 2023

Building a Classic Amp Design


The completed project.

<tap…tap…> <Is this thing on?… testing 1,2...>

It’s been a long time since I’ve posted anything, indeed, I thought any future posts would go to my photo blog which has also been sitting idle. Since this is not a photo post, I figured this was as good a place as any... Guess I haven’t had much to say. Retired life is excellent!

Way back in the day I started out as an Avionics Technician in the Navy. I grew up reading Popular Electronics and occasionally building one of their projects, so it was a natural thing.  While I moved on into the computer world eventually, I still have that fascination with things electrical. Also being a musician of sorts, it was only natural I fell into this project.

The Fender 5F6A Bassman amplifier made from 1958 to 1960 had quite the influence on popular music - both country and rock. While intended as an amp for bass guitar, its biggest influence has been as a straight guitar amp. An original ’59 Bassman goes in the neighborhood of $10,000 or so, putting it out of range of the average guitarist. This was the amplifier circuit that Jim Marshall based (with modifications) his original Marshall JTM 45 on.

Fender sells reissues which while using the same circuit design are built using modern techniques on printed circuit boards. While no doubt a fine amplifier, dinosaurs like myself long for the old school hand wired amps. Fortunately, there are several companies that have assembled kits to the old specifications. One of these companies is Mojotone, and I recently bought a 5F6A kit from them. I thought I’d share the construction process.

The short version - I built one of my dream guitar amplifiers. It was fun. It sounds great! If you want all of the gory technical details, continue reading. 

Caution: Techno-babble may appear at any time in this post. :-)

I went with Mojotone because they assemble a quality kit based on the original Fender schematic and layout documents. There are a few modifications - the old two wire power with a ground switch is replaced with a modern 3 wire power cord and updated switches, and the grounding capacitor in the original circuit is deleted since it is potentially dangerous and doesn’t do anything with the modern power cord.

The speakers installed. The wiring will get shortened after testing.

Mojotone sells the kit as a chassis only, you have to order the cabinet and speakers separately. As the cabinet can be custom made and covered to your specification this makes perfect sense. I ordered the kit and cabinet from them in the first week of December. I received the cabinet in a couple days, but the kit was back ordered. This was clear on their web site, not a surprise. I ordered four Jensen P10R speakers locally from Antique Electronics Supply. I went with the P10Rs partly because that was the original speaker used in the Fender amps, but mostly because I really like the sound of them. I went ahead and installed and wired the speakers in the cabinet as that was the most convenient way to store them until the kit arrived. 

The kit is well packaged and complete.

Mojotone said back orders for kits were 4 to 6 weeks, and promptly four weeks later it was delivered. While the kit has everything you need to build out to the schematic, I wanted to make a couple of changes. As anyone who has worked in electronics can tell you, the published schematic is a starting point and not always what was shipped. Fender changed a couple of things along the way and I wanted my amp to reflect that. For those interested the changes I did were to use linear potentiometers for the volume controls instead of audio taper, changed the tone slope resistor from 56kΩ to 100kΩ, the bass capacitor from .02 to .1 ufd and the phase inverter tail resistor from 10kΩ to 6.8kΩ. In addition, instead of using a 5kΩ pot for the presence control, Fender used a 25kΩ linear pot bypassed with a 4.7kΩ resistor. Because of the magic of electronics, this meant that the AC signal saw a 3.9kΩ log taper pot (through a capacitor) to ground while DC saw 4.7kΩ. Finally, I wanted to add a Master Volume control and ground the circuit directly to the chassis or brass ground plate like Fender did back in the day. Mojotone provides ground tabs to be connected to the transformer mounting bolts since chassis grounding requires a heavy duty soldering iron that most people don’t need in addition to one suitable for electronics. I also bought a matched set of 5881 tubes to use instead of the more popular 6L6CG tubes provided by Mojotone.

Basic chassis wiring
Transformers and filter caps

After verifying the kit was complete, I started by getting the chassis as complete as possible. This meant installing the transformers and choke, tube sockets, and some of the front panel. I also prepared the grounding points by removing the plating with a Dremel tool and tinning the spots with solder to make it easier once I was ready to attach the grounds. I went ahead and assembled the filter capacitor board and installed the filter caps in the pan on the outside of the chassis. Fender grounded the filter caps directly to the pan in the ’50’s, while Mojotone runs the ground to the board with the signal grounds. I went ahead and ran the ground to the chassis point with the AC grounds to keep them separated from the signal path. I also cleaned and prepped the grounding points on the brass plate I added under the controls and tinned those points as well. Finally I installed those components that mounted to the tube sockets and ran the power and output transformer wires where possible. I ran the heater power to the pilot light socket, but didn’t run the heater wiring since it would get in the way. By the end of day one most of the chassis was complete.

The guts.

On day two I set the chassis aside and populated the eyelet board with components. This is a pretty straight forward process made a little more challenging by the resistor leads being just barely long enough - the made them longer in the ’50’s. Then I flipped the board over and ran the wires required underneath the board and soldering everything in place. I took the time to read the wiring with an ohmmeter to make sure it was correct. It’s pretty tedious to have to take the board out once it’s wired into the chassis. Finally I attached the wires for the tube sockets and front panel controls. At this point I took a long break, coming back later to verify everything. 

The completed chassis.

Once I was happy with the board I went ahead and installed the controls in the chassis and proceeded to install the board. Finally I ran the heater wiring to all the tube sockets and installed the power cable. As tempting as it was to power up at this point, I knew better and figured the next morning I would check everything while I was fresh before starting to test.

The testing begins...

All rested up, I inspected the assembled amp again for obvious problems, and with the ohmmeter made sure ground was connected to ground and power was connected correctly. With no tubes installed I powered it up and checked the filament voltages and the bias supply voltage both of which were unsurprisingly high. This amp was designed when wall voltage was generally around 110, so everything is a little hot, though still within tolerable limits. (I later put the amp on a variable transformer and set it for the filament voltage of 6.3 volts. The input voltage was 111.5v. Normal wall voltage around here is about 121.5 and I've seen it as high as 123.6.) Next I installed the rectifier tube and checked the DC voltage at the Standby switch. This looked good so it was time for the fun to begin...

Reduces the power by 90%.
Makes it the volume of a 5 watt Champ.

This amp design has negative feedback from the output back to the power section. If the output of the tubes are reversed the negative feedback becomes positive as indicated by a loud unpleasant squeal that ignores the volume control. I made a box to go between the amp and speakers that reduces the power by 90%. Because of the magic of physics this cuts the volume in half - still loud, but you can stay in the same room with it. Thanks to Rob Robinette's web site for this little design. Combined with the long speaker wiring it allowed me to have the cabinet under my bench while I tested the chassis.

So with my speakers hooked up through it I put the tubes in and powered it up. No squeal so I thought I was good for phase, but if the master was turned up and the presence turned down it made some weird noises. As it turned out the master volume I installed kept it below the feedback level. It took me a few minutes to figure out what was going on, but once I did a quick swap of the output transformer leads took care of that problem. Next I checked voltages throughout the amp and found a preamp tube with no plate voltage. Power down, drain the caps, and found a cold solder connection. After repairing that my voltages were good so I installed the chassis in the cabinet and checked the biasing of the output tubes. I want the bias to be between 50 and 60 percent of the maximum range for the tubes, but was barely at 25%. Way too cold! Using a resistor box I played with it and decided on the value resistor I needed. Of course I didn't have it so Antique Electronics Supply got it to me the next day. It wasn't even a rush order. The stock bias resistor was a 56kΩ, and after some experimentation I ended up using 30kΩ. With wall voltage at 123.3 this gave me a bias of 63% with 5881s and 66% with 6L6GCs. This is a little hotter than I prefer, but well within the safe range and wall voltage will normally be closer to 120v.

With bias sorted out I plugged in the guitar and it sounded pretty good, except none of the tone controls did anything. D'Oh! I forgot to ground the middle control pot which is the ground for the entire tone stack. With that taken care of everything seems to be working so I removed my power reducing box and shortened the speaker leads.

Mostly done, but I hadn't shortened the speaker wires, yet.

The only other surprise was that I intended to use a chicken head knob on the master volume to match the rest of the knobs, but I installed the master volume in the space for the no longer used ground switch. This spot was too close to the cabinet so I had to use a round knob. The master volume circuit I used was the Trainwreck type 2 which works really well. I made the power reduction box to keep the volume under control while still being able to overdrive the amp, but the master volume works so well the box is unnecessary. I'll keep it for full power testing, though.

Some resources I used for this project -


Mojotone - Supplier of amplifier and guitar parts, cabinets, speakers, kits... Very responsive and good support. There are other quality kit suppliers out there, but I've been happy with Mojotone. Free shipping for orders over $99, but shipping is a bit high on small parts orders.

Antique Electronics Supply - My local source for components. Also matched power tubes. While they are on the other side of town from me, it's actually quicker and cheaper for me to order online from them. Postage on small parts orders is less the the cost of gas for me to drive there.

Mouser Electronics - Excellent supplier of components. I think they have everything.

Stewmac - Primarily a luthier supply house, they also handle some electronics.

Web information:

Rob Robinette's Web Site - A gold mine of information on tube amplifiers.


Psionic Audio - Amplifier repair in Memphis done right. Lot's of good information.

Uncle Doug - Lots of neat amplifier restoration videos.

Millstap - This guy has an original '59 and '60 Fender Bassman, and posted detailed videos on how the amps were actually constructed as well as detailing some of the required maintenance on old amps.

Friday, March 01, 2019

Still out here... kinda

F-35s RTB to Luke AFB after a training mission. View from my back porch.
Well, it's been quite a while...

I started posting as Pogue back in 2004 when my National Guard unit deployed to Kuwait. The blog was mostly a way of letting friends and family know what was going on without having to write the same letter a bunch of times! In the interest of OPSEC I kept things relatively obscure.

Pogue lasted through the Kuwait deployment, transition from Field Artillery to Aviation and my deployments to Iraq and Panama. Just over a year ago I retired from the National Guard and had the intention of coming up with an awesome post about it. OK, so that didn't go a planned...

This blog and my Photo Pogue blog are pretty much done now, since the need for OPSEC is no longer an issue. I'll be leaving them up but they will be inactive.

If anyone is interested in my random thoughts and photographs I'm still out there at Phil Ryan Photography. Feel free to drop by!

Thursday, May 05, 2016

Bucket Work

Photo by Rick Klaur
Doing our annual re-qualification for Bambi Buckets.  Yeah, those are my feet hanging out the side of the helicopter.  Sitting in the door gives you the best visibility for the drop.

Tuesday, May 03, 2016

Sea Cobra

Marine Sea Cobra overflies the house
It's been pretty slow here what with most of the unit being off to Kosovo, and me working with the rear detachment.  Kind of quiet...  So when I heard that distinctive Huey "wop-wop-wop" I grabbed my camera and caught this guy probably headed to 29 Palms.

In non-military related news, the Missus and I just got back from a trip to Havasupai in the Grand Canyon.  Trip report here.

Monday, November 23, 2015

Just stopping by...

These look like so much fun
We recently had some of our Regular Army friends drop by on their way to some training.  That really looks like a fun way to arrive at a location - I wonder if the airlines are working on it?

Just in case they need to go through the bad part of town

Sunday, July 26, 2015

Annual Training

Waiting to extract some MPs

The last two weeks have been our annual training period, and unlike the last couple of years we actually got to do some training we needed instead of just fun stuff.  To clarify, we have new pilots and crew chiefs that have to progress through a series of specific tasks before they can become qualified.  While the Angel Thunder exercise last year and the Panama deployment the year prior were fun for those of us who were already qualified, and looked great on the battalion brag sheet, they didn't allow us to do the the progression training we really needed.

This year the number one mission was progression, and while we did have a couple of other commitments, they complemented rather that competed with our primary mission.  As one of the crew chief flight instructors I spent most of the time on night shift working with our trainees who had progressed to the NVG (night vision goggles) portion of the training.  The first couple of nights we supported some Air Force JTACs (Joint Tactical Air Controllers) in an exercise that involved us, combat search and rescue, a couple of Apache gunships, some F-16's and an AC-130.  We used this opportunity to take one of our crew chiefs who was nearly completed with training for an exposure to a difficult mission in as close to combat conditions as possible.  He did fine, and overall it was a good mission.

The MPs getting their safety briefing from a crew chief prior to loading

We also did a four ship night air assault to insert and extract some MPs in support of their training.  This is one of our standard missions, but not something they get to do very often.  We had to watch the weather since a storm was threatening the area, but it slid back down into Mexico so we didn't need to execute any of our contingency plans.  It was a dark night, and dust was a bit of an issue, but the training went well.

The above video was taken by SSG Marco Lechuga, a former member of out unit.  He's working with another command at the moment, but this is a small community so we expect him back eventually.  It's a neat slow motion video of sling operations from the point of view of the hook up team.  This night I was evaluating one of our trainees in NVG sling operations (he passed, btw).  It was a tough night - we had dust blowing in and 22 knot gusts from the south (left on the video.) It kept both him and the pilot working.  This is also a pretty good look at the world through NVGs.  The bright light on the right of the helicopter is the red position light.  It's actually no brighter than the green one on the other side, but the goggles are much more sensitive to red.